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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 1, 2013 13:02:02 GMT -5
Bryce. Harper.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 1, 2013 13:03:24 GMT -5
I don't understand why the Rangers would over-pay for Andrus when Profar projects to be a much better, all-around player. Knowing Boras is Andrus' agent, you have to expect that there is some type of opt-out language. Perhaps they try to get Price for Profar, Beras (suspended until July 1 after lying about his age) and one or two pitching prospects? Maybe to set up a massive trade? The Rangers could be setting up for Stanton or Price. Or perhaps they want both Profar and Andrus up the middle? I would think Kinsler would be expendable? Either way, I'm surprised the Rangers committed 8 years to Andrus.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 1, 2013 14:49:26 GMT -5
The Nats did kinda well today. Their consecutive #1 picks were pretty good. Strasburg set down 19 in a row at one point.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 1, 2013 14:56:21 GMT -5
They were sooooo lucky that they had two #1 picks and two generational talent happen to be eligible for does drafts. They have done well building a contender but they hit the jackpot there.
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Post by bluechip on Apr 1, 2013 15:05:16 GMT -5
They were sooooo lucky that they had two #1 picks and two generational talent happen to be eligible for does drafts. They have done well building a contender but they hit the jackpot there. They got one of the most heralded college pitchers in recent memory, and one of the most heralded high school batters ever. The Astros by comparison got a solid short stop prospect, and will likely get a good pitching prospect, but neither projects to be anything close to what the Nats picked.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 1, 2013 15:28:26 GMT -5
Samardzija throws an opening day gem 8IP 2H 0R 1BB 9K
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Post by ramireja on Apr 1, 2013 16:16:21 GMT -5
They were sooooo lucky that they had two #1 picks and two generational talent happen to be eligible for does drafts. They have done well building a contender but they hit the jackpot there. They got one of the most heralded college pitchers in recent memory, and one of the most heralded high school batters ever. The Astros by comparison got a solid short stop prospect, and will likely get a good pitching prospect, but neither projects to be anything close to what the Nats picked. if it's any consolation, the Astros should get to draft first next year too (Carlos Rodon)....doesn't take away from your point though.
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Post by jdb on Apr 1, 2013 16:20:50 GMT -5
They were sooooo lucky that they had two #1 picks and two generational talent happen to be eligible for does drafts. They have done well building a contender but they hit the jackpot there. They got one of the most heralded college pitchers in recent memory, and one of the most heralded high school batters ever. The Astros by comparison got a solid short stop prospect, and will likely get a good pitching prospect, but neither projects to be anything close to what the Nats picked. They picked a great time to suck that's for sure.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 1, 2013 17:29:09 GMT -5
Kershaw with a HR to dead center
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 1, 2013 17:31:54 GMT -5
Ryan Ludwick dislocated his right shoulder sliding into 3rd base. MRI tomorrow. Big loss for CIN.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 1, 2013 19:47:29 GMT -5
Don't know what topic this falls under, but does Fernandez getting called up to the Marlins give Bogaerts an even better chance of being the top overall prospect next year?
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 1, 2013 22:06:36 GMT -5
At first I didn't like the Andrus contract. But now, now having noticed that Dave Cameron has already written his "you might think this is a bad contract, but if you look at these completely unreliable defensive metrics, you'll realize..." piece on the deal, I absolutely despise it. Post of the year thus far, Cameron is such a dumbass and I couldn't agree more.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 2, 2013 8:18:31 GMT -5
They got one of the most heralded college pitchers in recent memory, and one of the most heralded high school batters ever. The Astros by comparison got a solid short stop prospect, and will likely get a good pitching prospect, but neither projects to be anything close to what the Nats picked. They picked a great time to suck that's for sure. The Rays could have done almost as well if they had drafted Posey over Beckham.
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Post by bluechip on Apr 2, 2013 8:58:24 GMT -5
They picked a great time to suck that's for sure. The Rays could have done almost as well if they had drafted Posey over Beckham. The Rays have struck out so many times when they got the first overall pick: 1999: Josh Hamilton (great player, but not for the Rays) 2003: Delmon Young 2007: David Price 2008: Tim Beckham 1/4 with that first pick is terrible, though they've done so well at developing talent, I do not feel too bad for them.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 2, 2013 9:36:39 GMT -5
Post of the year thus far, Cameron is such a dumbass and I couldn't agree more. There's a lot of dumbasses out there (see: Miguel Cabrera's MVP award), but Cameron isn't one of them. He's a very smart man who's a little too in love with his own intelligence and has a contrarian streak to him. And because of that, when he sees something that looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, he frequently makes a too-clever-by-half case that it's actually a flamingo.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 2, 2013 10:08:10 GMT -5
I think I'd like the Andrus deal in a vacuum. He's only 24, and he's already one of the best shortstops in the league at getting on base - the league average OBP at the position was only .306 last year. Also, his doubles have increased every year. I think he settles in somewhere around .290/.355/.425, and the improved SLG may lead to more walks as well. Given his defense - where the scouts seem to agree with the defensive metrics - he's close to a $15M player right now, and he's likely to be a $15M player in 2022, when that money doesn't go nearly as far. I mean, think about the salary structure compared to ten years ago. After 2001, The Red Sox gave Johnny Damon four year, $32 million; after 2012, they gave Shane Victorino three years, $39 million. My guess is that $13-$15 million just isn't that much in 10 years.
With Profar involved though, it's curious. A friend I was discussing the deal with thinks the extension actually makes Andrus more valuable, because he's under team control almost forever and, while it'd be hard to term his deal "team-friendly" it's certainly not inappropriate. The Rangers have generally been a pretty sensible team the last few years, so I'm interested to see how this plays out.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 2, 2013 12:52:33 GMT -5
Andrus deal has an opt out clause after 2018
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 2, 2013 18:04:47 GMT -5
Post of the year thus far, Cameron is such a dumbass and I couldn't agree more. There's a lot of dumbasses out there (see: Miguel Cabrera's MVP award), but Cameron isn't one of them. He's a very smart man who's a little too in love with his own intelligence and has a contrarian streak to him. And because of that, when he sees something that looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, he frequently makes a too-clever-by-half case that it's actually a flamingo. You're right, and while I don't think he's unintelligent by any means, I do think however that he isn't a good baseball analyst. Every piece I've read of him gives me the impression that he's trying to be the baseball version of Pitchfork, only he sounds somehow even more ominous.
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Post by danr on Apr 2, 2013 18:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 2, 2013 20:12:07 GMT -5
Darvish looks filthy tonight. 6 Ks through 3 innings. He appears to have much better command so far. Potential for something really good tonight.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 2, 2013 20:31:23 GMT -5
Darvish looks filthy tonight. 6 Ks through 3 innings. He appears to have much better command so far. Potential for something really good tonight. 9 through 4 innings. Still potential for something really good. And Houston is certainly trotting out a "potential for something really good" lineup: Altuve, Wallace, Pena, Carter, Ankiel, Maxwell, Castro (DH), Corporan, M. Gonzalez
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Post by mainesox on Apr 2, 2013 20:49:46 GMT -5
And Houston is certainly trotting out a "potential for something really good" lineup: Altuve, Wallace, Pena, Carter, Ankiel, Maxwell, Castro (DH), Corporan, M. Gonzalez The Yankees are jealous.
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Post by tns on Apr 2, 2013 21:23:37 GMT -5
His pitch count is getting up there. Ron Washington may be put in a tight spot if the Astros work the count in the 8th.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 2, 2013 21:58:11 GMT -5
Wow up the middle.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 2, 2013 22:00:03 GMT -5
Jose woulda had it.
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