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Post by jdb on Jul 23, 2013 19:28:39 GMT -5
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 23, 2013 21:45:58 GMT -5
What was the Albert/Joey Belle situation with the Orioles? They were on the hook for his money for years.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 23, 2013 21:50:23 GMT -5
Jesus, teams are paying through the nose so far.
BC, please avoid Peavy. Certainly not worth top specs.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 23, 2013 21:55:21 GMT -5
Jesus, teams are paying through the nose so far. BC, please avoid Peavy. Certainly not worth top specs. Welcome to the two wildcard era. There's a ton of buyers and a ridiculous shortage of available talent.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 23, 2013 22:02:36 GMT -5
Hopefully the Red Sox do the smart thing and winning the bidding for Brian Wilson.
It is risky, but for just cash, I'd much rather take that right than give up a good prospect for a reliever.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 23, 2013 22:16:18 GMT -5
Hopefully the Red Sox do the smart thing and winning the bidding for Brian Wilson. It is risky, but for just cash, I'd much rather take that right than give up a good prospect for a reliever. Which was absolutely why it boggled my mind that Boston wasn't all over Dave Aardsma after NY released him early in the season. Sure, he and Farrell had some miscommunication issues when Farrell was with the team the 1st time around, but a MiLB deal and him at Pawtucket w/a short window to the majors was all it would have probably taken. The guy was throwing 93-5 with the Yanks when released, they just had a good pen then and Boston then was stumbling along with Mortenson. Aardsma, even then would have been Top Dog with the Paw Sox. It boggles the mind some times at guys the Sox let get by who can be of use that can be had for little to nothing.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 23, 2013 22:37:23 GMT -5
After my one scoreless inning tonight, I've given up 12 runs in 16.1 Major League innings. Who am I?
Hint: not Ryan Pressly or Michael Olmsted.
In all seriousness though, Fields had given up 10 runs on 10 hits, including 5 HR, in his last 8.2. If he doesn't straighten himself out, I wonder if there's any chance the Astros would send him back...
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 23, 2013 22:43:51 GMT -5
I sorta doubt it. They're nearly a month from roster expansion, and they're one of the worst teams in history. The only way they send him back is if they decide they don't think he'll ever turn into a useful piece.
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 23, 2013 23:06:38 GMT -5
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Post by bluechip on Jul 23, 2013 23:58:03 GMT -5
I sorta doubt it. They're nearly a month from roster expansion, and they're one of the worst teams in history. The only way they send him back is if they decide they don't think he'll ever turn into a useful piece. Besides, they're in a race with the Marlins for the first overal pick in the stacked 2014 draft.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 24, 2013 0:37:18 GMT -5
Uhm, yeah, what are the White Sox thinking?
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 24, 2013 6:14:57 GMT -5
I'd trade Marrero for Nicky D in a millisecond.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2013 7:57:53 GMT -5
Uhm, yeah, what are the White Sox thinking? As I said over in the trade rumors discussion, I'm not sure i really believe that.
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Post by dfwsox on Jul 24, 2013 8:08:21 GMT -5
Anyone have any thoughts on the comments made last night by Kemp (Dodgers) on the Braun situation and stripping Braun of the MVP award? IMO i believe they should strip him of that award.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 24, 2013 9:27:31 GMT -5
Anyone have any thoughts on the comments made last night by Kemp (Dodgers) on the Braun situation and stripping Braun of the MVP award? IMO i believe they should strip him of that award. Since Kemp blatantly should have won it anyway, I'm against stripping Braun of an award he didn't deserve in the first place because he didn't deserve it some more.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 24, 2013 10:10:42 GMT -5
Anyone have any thoughts on the comments made last night by Kemp (Dodgers) on the Braun situation and stripping Braun of the MVP award? IMO i believe they should strip him of that award. Since Kemp blatantly should have won it anyway, I'm against stripping Braun of an award he didn't deserve in the first place because he didn't deserve it some more. It sounds all warm and fuzzy, but does the league take white-out to McQuire and Bonds HR wins for each single season, Bonds MVP years (7) and then target Palmero and Canseco also for single season leadership and award it to 2nd, sometimes 3rd place finishers for non juicers? Think stripping Braun last year of the MVP will go too far, the league (and writers) realize their mistake and are trying to light speed past that right now.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 24, 2013 12:02:41 GMT -5
I really hope salaries for suspended/banned players get donated to charity and continue to count towards the luxury tax threshold. If not, you can be sure that the Yankees are behind the lifetime ban for Arod and that would be ridiculously unfair.
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Post by bsout2 on Jul 24, 2013 12:12:26 GMT -5
I really hope salaries for suspended/banned players get donated to charity and continue to count towards the luxury tax threshold. If not, you can be sure that the Yankees are behind the lifetime ban for Arod and that would be ridiculously unfair. But from a business stand point they are hurt by his use of PEDs. They invested in what they were led to believe was one of greatest baseball players of all time. Smart investment? No. They deserve that money back based on the fact that he was a cheat and a liar.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 24, 2013 12:30:14 GMT -5
I really hope salaries for suspended/banned players get donated to charity and continue to count towards the luxury tax threshold. If not, you can be sure that the Yankees are behind the lifetime ban for Arod and that would be ridiculously unfair. But from a business stand point they are hurt by his use of PEDs. They invested in what they were led to believe was one of greatest baseball players of all time. Smart investment? No. They deserve that money back based on the fact that he was a cheat and a liar. Yeah, they had no idea, plus got the benefit of him using them.
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Post by elguapo on Jul 24, 2013 12:32:13 GMT -5
I really hope salaries for suspended/banned players get donated to charity and continue to count towards the luxury tax threshold. If not, you can be sure that the Yankees are behind the lifetime ban for Arod and that would be ridiculously unfair. But from a business stand point they are hurt by his use of PEDs. They invested in what they were led to believe was one of greatest baseball players of all time. Smart investment? No. They deserve that money back based on the fact that he was a cheat and a liar. The Yankees knew ARod was a cheat and a liar when he opted out of his last contract and yet they still re-signed him for 10 years, $275m.
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Post by jmei on Jul 24, 2013 12:35:22 GMT -5
Please move all Iwamura discussion to the trade proposal subforum. It is speculation of the worst sort. Guys, this is why we can't have nice things. EDIT: new thread created here: forum.soxprospects.com/thread/1051/
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 24, 2013 12:44:27 GMT -5
I really hope salaries for suspended/banned players get donated to charity and continue to count towards the luxury tax threshold. If not, you can be sure that the Yankees are behind the lifetime ban for Arod and that would be ridiculously unfair. But from a business stand point they are hurt by his use of PEDs. They invested in what they were led to believe was one of greatest baseball players of all time. Smart investment? No. They deserve that money back based on the fact that he was a cheat and a liar. And they profited from his 2009 W Championship plus all the post season games and his titles too. But hey the yankees benefited from those championship honors so they ... to be fair should lose from them too when the roids apply (even though they won't).
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Post by bsout2 on Jul 24, 2013 12:48:16 GMT -5
But from a business stand point they are hurt by his use of PEDs. They invested in what they were led to believe was one of greatest baseball players of all time. Smart investment? No. They deserve that money back based on the fact that he was a cheat and a liar. And they profited from his 2009 W Championship plus all the post season games and his titles too. But hey the yankees benefited from those championship honors so they ... to be fair should lose from them too when the roids apply (even though they won't). We can only move forwards and not backwards. If you start to take banners down the Res Sox are going on 95 years without a championship.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 24, 2013 12:56:29 GMT -5
And they profited from his 2009 W Championship plus all the post season games and his titles too. But hey the yankees benefited from those championship honors so they ... to be fair should lose from them too when the roids apply (even though they won't). We can only move forwards and not backwards. If you start to take banners down the Res Sox are going on 95 years without a championship. Isn't that why the penalty going forward should be in the form of no luxury tax relief to a team that signed a non-voidable contract?
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Post by bsout2 on Jul 24, 2013 13:29:30 GMT -5
gweg
I just feel the team should not be on the hook for a player's contract, if they are found to be cheating in order to achieve results. If I hire any employee based on their past work, research, or achievements. Then find out that the criteria we used to evaluate them, for example: a brilliant graduate school paper on a new financial theory they claimed to write was actually the work of another students. I have every right to not only fire them in my mind, but if I want I should be able to seek legal retribution if I see fit.
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