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Post by amfox1 on Jul 17, 2013 18:16:59 GMT -5
Today was the competitive balance lottery, which establishes the order for Comp Rounds A and B in the 2014 draft. These picks are tradable (once only).
Comp A 1 COL 2 BAL 3 CLE 4 MIA 5 KC 6 MIL
Comp B 1 SD 2 ARI 3 STL 4 TB 5 PIT 6 SEA
OAK and CIN were the only eligible teams that did not get a pick.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 17, 2013 19:42:51 GMT -5
Today was the competitive balance lottery, which establishes the order for Comp Rounds A and B in the 2014 draft. These picks are tradable (once only). Comp A 1 COL 2 BAL 3 CLE 4 MIA 5 KC 6 MIL Comp B 1 SD 2 ARI 3 STL 4 TB 5 PIT 6 SEA OAK and CIN were the only eligible teams that did not get a pick. How is STL in that mix? It seems like they would make more than enough revenue to be outside of the eligibility requirements.
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Post by jmei on Jul 17, 2013 21:04:22 GMT -5
Yeah, St. Louis and Baltimore jump off the page as teams that I wouldn't consider small market.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 17, 2013 21:10:05 GMT -5
Anyone know the current performance projection of Cuban pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez? > or < Matt Garza. Cleared to sign and should sign this week according to MLB.com via MLBTR. Says he's MLB ready pending a couple MiLB starts to tune up. All he costs is $$$.
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Post by jmei on Jul 17, 2013 21:14:37 GMT -5
Anyone know the current performance projection of Cuban pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez? > or < Matt Garza. Cleared to sign and should sign this week according to MLB.com via MLBTR. SaysHis agent leaked a report that he's MLB ready pending a couple MiLB starts to tune up. All he costs is $$$. Fixed that for you. It's just so hard to tell what is true and what is BS with older Cuban players. He might have crazy upside, but I have a hard time seeing him with a 50th percentile projection better than Garza this year. I think any team that signs him is doing so more for the long-term than for a 2013 pennant run.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 17, 2013 21:22:00 GMT -5
Thanks. In that case I'd save the $60M and see if we can pry away Shields or Lee without gutting the system.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 18, 2013 5:19:14 GMT -5
This isn't complicated. Baseball is an entertainment industry, and baseball players are celebrities. Not too many people understand how a modern celebrity can maximize income and manage exposure over multiple streams like Jay-Z. He probably doesn't make much sense as an agent for, say, Mike Aviles, but if I'm Yasiel Puig, I absolutely want to hear what the guy has to say. People who can negotiate a contract are a dime a dozen, and Jay-Z has that covered with the partnership with established agents.
But if you want to write him off as an uneducated rapper, your choice, I guess.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 18, 2013 12:36:11 GMT -5
Anyone know the current performance projection of Cuban pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez? > or < Matt Garza. Cleared to sign and should sign this week according to MLB.com via MLBTR. SaysHis agent leaked a report that he's MLB ready pending a couple MiLB starts to tune up. All he costs is $$$. Fixed that for you. It's just so hard to tell what is true and what is BS with older Cuban players. He might have crazy upside, but I have a hard time seeing him with a 50th percentile projection better than Garza this year. I think any team that signs him is doing so more for the long-term than for a 2013 pennant run. FWIW: Kevin (Toronto): Keith, have you seen Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez? Does he have top 50 prospect kind of talent? Klaw (1:07 PM): I have not. What I've heard is plus fastball with sink, plus slider, fringy CH. I think he'll get paid big-time the way Soler and Puig did last summer, because he's not subject to the int'l signing budget caps.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 18, 2013 14:47:50 GMT -5
Yeah, St. Louis and Baltimore jump off the page as teams that I wouldn't consider small market. I wonder how much of these two teams making the bottom 10 have to do with the proximity of St Louis and Kansas City, both of whom were eligible, and Baltimore's proximity to Washington. Although for this to be the factor Washington would have to slot in just outside of the 10 smallest. In comparison teams in NY City, Chicago and LA have ridiculous regional populations and media sources eliminating there participation.
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Post by bsout2 on Jul 18, 2013 14:52:45 GMT -5
Jose Conteras released by the Pirates. The Red Sox can finally get him and they don't have to destroy in the hotel rooms in the process.
I actually would like them to sign him.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 18, 2013 15:18:16 GMT -5
This isn't complicated. Baseball is an entertainment industry, and baseball players are celebrities. Not too many people understand how a modern celebrity can maximize income and manage exposure over multiple streams like Jay-Z. He probably doesn't make much sense as an agent for, say, Mike Aviles, but if I'm Yasiel Puig, I absolutely want to hear what the guy has to say. People who can negotiate a contract are a dime a dozen, and Jay-Z has that covered with the partnership with established agents. But if you want to write him off as an uneducated rapper, your choice, I guess. I totally disagree. Baseball is a sport and one of the oldest with long standing traditions that some are trying to drag into gangster themed styles that has gotten other sports (football/basketball) into trouble and now is trying to drag the oldest and grandest sport of them all down into a pit of doom. It is bad enough that certain player are allowed to wear hats sideways, make gestures of gang themed symbols on the field and now this. I feel more trouble is brewing for the grand old game, as well as more serious legal issues from players that we have never seen before coming that have come out from football and basketball players since episodes like those named have come about.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 18, 2013 15:53:09 GMT -5
I'd be more willing to agree with your point of view, John, if I could get myself to ignore baseball's history. The sport you highlight isn't the one I'm familiar with. Racism, labor strife, rampant drug abuse, they've all been part of the game since the beginning. If you include the reserve clause, you could even throw slavery in there.
I think baseball's a great game in part because it reflects and often triumphs over all those aspects of our society and more. It has such a long season, that you get to watch all of those play out over time, and it continually surprises just like this year's Sox team.
I wouldn't worry too much about Jay Z destroying the game.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 18, 2013 16:21:16 GMT -5
I'd be more willing to agree with your point of view, John, if I could get myself to ignore baseball's history. The sport you highlight isn't the one I'm familiar with. Racism, labor strife, rampant drug abuse, they've all been part of the game since the beginning. If you include the reserve clause, you could even throw slavery in there. I think baseball's a great game in part because it reflects and often triumphs over all those aspects of our society and more. It has such a long season, that you get to watch all of those play out over time, and it continually surprises just like this year's Sox team. I wouldn't worry too much about Jay Z destroying the game. I'll go with you there also Norm. Remember also when it took forever for the Sox to bring about the 1st "colored" player in Pumpsie Green on the team and how poorly some white players treated others of color, including some HOF, like Dixie Walker, Nellie Fox. That was the big negative from the "olden" times, even over FA. The reserve clause to me doesn't even represent the possible doom coming to the game of gangster themed, criminal acts infiltrating sports now and I see it coming, unless something is done and done now to prevent it. Things can be done to prevent it and they must be. The horrendous act by Delmon Young last year should have been treated far more harshly as just an example. Another poster mentioned certain owners in the league and that is an entirely another subject which myself has gone over before long ago on another site that no longer post on after years. The only cure is to shrink the league of teams that cannot be supported by themselves/fans, that way there is no need to dig around for obvious owners of ill repute in the 1st place. There are at least half a dozen teams right now that half no buisness even existing and no chance of making it on their own.. TV deals, fan base, no way of making it without hand outs from the other owners.. Baseball is a business and a sport, not a charity. Fold the teams, have a draft league wide with the teams, possibly move one to Vancouver, maybe Montreal, think of possibly relocating one to Japan if NPB is fine with it and fold the rest. Rant over. EDIT: My fault for going that far with original post and pointing out the negative culture that is being brought into the game to it's detriment IMO Amfox and apologize for it if went to far in that original post.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 18, 2013 16:50:08 GMT -5
Triple-A Charlotte released Lars Anderson.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 18, 2013 17:06:32 GMT -5
If people would like to discuss Jay-Z, take it off the main board. Thanks.
I have deleted several comments already and will delete the rest, if need be.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 18, 2013 18:43:13 GMT -5
. RT @dbacks have introduced the D'Backs Luchador as an official mascot.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 18, 2013 18:51:26 GMT -5
Nothing says baseball like a ripped guy with a mask, spandex pants and a cape.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 20, 2013 19:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 20, 2013 19:50:57 GMT -5
What am I looking at?
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Post by mainesox on Jul 20, 2013 20:30:34 GMT -5
Someone from Milwakuee, wherever that is...
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 20, 2013 20:46:59 GMT -5
Someone from Milwakuee, wherever that is... Google the team name
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Post by fleurdelethal on Jul 20, 2013 20:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 20, 2013 20:57:39 GMT -5
Apparently because even when I saw this post and realized what was going on, I initially thought the error was the two Es at the end.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 21, 2013 10:17:52 GMT -5
Who are the Chefs?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 21, 2013 16:07:28 GMT -5
Here's an update to my post from a few days ago about the penalties in the Biogenesis case being put off till 2014. Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune says it ain't necessarily so. Lots going on behind the scenes between ownership and the union, apparently. Both are eager to watch this disappear in the rear-view mirror. He says to expect action within the next few weeks. This might get interesting.
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