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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2020 13:39:33 GMT -5
Umm yeah they had plain cloths on, not Police uniforms. That doesn't mean they didn't have bulletproof vests on that said Police. Saying one doesn't make the other not true.
Also don't give me what they claim either like it's fact, the families lawsuit claims they didn't knock or announce themselves. Which is 100% a lie, as many neighbors heard them banging and one said they heard them announce Police. If they were sleeping in bed with no announcement this never happens. By the time they realize what's happening they would be surrounded by Police.
Yet we know by the time Police entered they were in the hallway and the BF had time to get his gun.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 26, 2020 13:47:33 GMT -5
Umm yeah they had plain cloths on, not Police uniforms. That doesn't mean they didn't have bulletproof vests on that said Police. Saying one doesn't make the other not true. Also don't give me what they claim either like it's fact, the families lawsuit claims they didn't knock or announce themselves. Which is 100% a lie, as many neighbors heard them banging and one said they heard them announce Police. If they were sleeping in bed with no announcement this never happens. By the time they realize what's happening they would be surrounded by Police. Yet we know by the time Police entered they were in the hallway and the BF had time to get his gun. Who’s arguing they were asleep?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2020 14:07:02 GMT -5
Umm yeah they had plain cloths on, not Police uniforms. That doesn't mean they didn't have bulletproof vests on that said Police. Saying one doesn't make the other not true. Also don't give me what they claim either like it's fact, the families lawsuit claims they didn't knock or announce themselves. Which is 100% a lie, as many neighbors heard them banging and one said they heard them announce Police. If they were sleeping in bed with no announcement this never happens. By the time they realize what's happening they would be surrounded by Police. Yet we know by the time Police entered they were in the hallway and the BF had time to get his gun. Who’s arguing they were asleep? The Taylor family lawsuit against the Police.
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Post by swingingbunt on Sept 27, 2020 13:00:14 GMT -5
There's really no point in arguing this, RJP. This is the same guy who victim blamed rape victims in the Kobe thread. He's not changing his mind anytime soon.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 27, 2020 15:56:27 GMT -5
There's really no point in arguing this, RJP. This is the same guy who victim blamed rape victims in the Kobe thread. He's not changing his mind anytime soon. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case#:~:text=The%20Kobe%20Bryant%20sexual%20assault,-year-old%20hotel%20employee. I look at the facts and there is a ton of crap in that case, right down to the end were she admits lying and backs out of the case. I certainly don't just take the word of a person I don't know and act like if anyone questions anything it's victim blaming. That's is completely wrong, people lie all the time especially when they can get millions out of it! We've seen just that with all the you to stuff and people walking away because they were caught in lies! There are certainly a few things that could change my mind on elements of this case. There is also a bunch of crap where people are lying. Like the BF and the families lawsuit saying different things. Yet I don't think it's about changing people's mind as much as having the conversation.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 27, 2020 17:25:09 GMT -5
For me the real conversation around this case shouldn’t be the details of what happened in the apartment that night. The conversation should be around police procedure and the things they do for cases.
1. Based on what they were looking for should police even be entering a private residence?
2. If yes, should they need better information than the information they can currently use?
3. Was a night time warrant necessary?
I’m a big supporter of police but it’s clear the culture of policing needs to change in a lot of areas. This is where I want to point out that every police department is different and generalizing police as one unit is really no different than generalizing a generation of people or a race of people etc. They operate differently with different leadership and the communities they are in are vastly different. That being said; the focus in a lot of areas are seemingly not to serve and protect they are to enforce laws.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 28, 2020 8:30:59 GMT -5
Despite the thread title, this has nothing to do with sports - it's just debating the Breonna Taylor case. While this discussion has remained quite civil, and I applaud and thank those of you who've been involved so far for that, in the name of staying consistent, this thread is being shut down.
I encourage everyone to discuss these sorts of topics. Just not here.
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