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Mariano Rivera and Politics
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 2:13:46 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 25, 2019 6:46:16 GMT -5
Who the reporter or Rivera?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 7:13:58 GMT -5
Who the reporter or Rivera? Robert Silverman needs to go back to whatever rock he crawled out from. Mariano Rivera is one of the classiest human beings in the country.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 25, 2019 8:04:18 GMT -5
Who the reporter or Rivera? Robert Silverman needs to go back to whatever rock he crawled out from. Mariano Rivera is one of the classiest human beings in the country. I asked because depending on what “side” you’re on it could go either way in this country these days. There are a lot of people who agree with Silverman.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 8:15:22 GMT -5
Robert Silverman needs to go back to whatever rock he crawled out from. Mariano Rivera is one of the classiest human beings in the country. I asked because depending on what “side” you’re on it could go either way in this country these days. There are a lot of people who agree with Silverman. Hence my original statement. "Disgusting...".
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 8:39:35 GMT -5
The snowflakes sure seem to be taking losing everyplace hard...
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 25, 2019 10:19:10 GMT -5
The snowflakes sure seem to be taking losing everyplace hard... So bring me up to speed here, you've located the real racists and it turns out that it's all the people who disagree with your politics?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 10:32:46 GMT -5
Interpret how you wish.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 25, 2019 10:49:09 GMT -5
The snowflakes sure seem to be taking losing everyplace hard... This puts me in mind of an observation I came across recently: Democrats are fundamentally oriented around economic/material issues like wages and health care, while Republicans are fundamentally oriented around cultural identity. But culture is dominated by liberal ideology (because corporations and marketers are most interested in young and urban populations, which skew left), while the political system is dominated by conservative ideology (because of various biases that over-represent older, whiter, and rural people, who skew right). But since culture is more salient for Republicans and politics is more salient for Democrats, everyone feels like they're losing all the time.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 25, 2019 12:11:26 GMT -5
Do we really need to pollute this board with politics? don't we disagree enough about the Red Sox games? Mods, please close this down.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 12:12:43 GMT -5
The snowflakes sure seem to be taking losing everyplace hard... This puts me in mind of an observation I came across recently: Democrats are fundamentally oriented around economic/material issues like wages and health care, while Republicans are fundamentally oriented around cultural identity. But culture is dominated by liberal ideology (because corporations and marketers are most interested in young and urban populations, which skew left), while the political system is dominated by conservative ideology (because of various biases that over-represent older, whiter, and rural people, who skew right). But since culture is more salient for Republicans and politics is more salient for Democrats, everyone feels like they're losing all the time. Well put. For me, although I appear to be a right leaning person, I'm actually a moderate but a moderate who is anti left extreme as well as anti right extreme. If the far left takes a hit, I'm happy. If the far right takes a hit, I'm happy. In this case, I was particularly referring to the string of loses the far left has endured. Sequentially, Hillary, Charlottesville (ANTIFA sparked the violence and the courts ruled they didn't have the right to tear down the monuments), Kavanaugh and the mob reaction based on testimony of three witnesses who have either been discredited or are facing charges, immigration when it turned out that the cage photos were from the Obama administration, the big blue wave which was a huge fizzle, the soaring economy, Mueller, after which the prime time ratings dropped across all the networks, significantly (LOL, a recent statement, CNN would have to double their ratings to have as many viewers as there are prostitutes in the USA), the squad which is backfiring on all cylinders and now the Meuller hearings which turned out to be a disaster for the impeach Trump extremists. Here's an Omar article to ponder, how are the red states going to view this ?: nypost.com/2019/07/23/state-lawmaker-conservative-group-call-for-ethics-probe-of-ilhan-omar/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR1jNJxTu4WAH-1R5Y69weQmkSR_jXvgUgH_WW07BZspzHgFai6kVO1aGyoHere's Liz Chaney piling it on: www.facebook.com/watch/?v=209186233351134Here are some statements after the Mueller hearing: 1.) “Robert Mueller’s testimony was a stammering, stuttering mess,” said The New York Post.
2.) “Old Man Mueller: Fool on the Hill,” wrote Michelle Malkin, in part, on Twitter.
3.) “Clearly Mueller was not in the House. This is not going to move the needle ..[It] was a huge loss for the anti-Trump media … He appeared weak. He could not recall or answer basic questions … I don’t think Mueller wrote this report,” said Doreen Borelli of Fox News.
4.) “Robert Mueller dodged the Judiciary committee’s questions about 100 times today,” said Politico.
5.) “Jesus, forgive me for ever being a Republican,” tweeted MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough.
The Hill ✔ @thehill NEW: Trump takes post-Mueller victory lap hill.cm/XZiB2ZO
6.) The hearing was “political theater,” said RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
7.) “Hug a Democrat today! Their witch hunt is over, they look petty AF and they will lose again in 2020 for that reason and a million more. Sucks to suck!” tweeted Tomi Lahren.
8.) “I think it was a complete stalemate … I can just say he was not hitting on six cylinders today,” said Chris Swecker, former FBI assistant director, in an interview on Fox News. “That was not a stellar performance on his part … He was not sharp today … He punted to Congress or he punted to the American people [on this matter].”
HuffPost ✔ @huffpost If the Justice Department couldn't charge Trump, it shouldn't have investigated his conduct in the first place, GOP lawmakers argued. #MuellerHearings huffp.st/TgzK7HI
At Mueller Hearings, Republicans Assert Trump Is Above The Law If the Justice Department couldn't charge Trump, it shouldn't have investigated his conduct in the first place, GOP lawmakers argued.
huffpost.com
9.) “Dems give Trump another gift with embarrassing #MuellerHearing,” tweeted Laura Ingraham, host of “The Ingraham Angle” on Fox News.
10.) “He’s there, to the best of his memory, trying to recall everything that’s in [the report] … I respect him for [his service to the country] … When all is said and done, this was not the best use of our time,” said Becket Adams, Washington Examiner.
11.) “Much as I hate to say it, this morning’s hearing was a disaster,” said well-known attorney Laurence Tribe, a Trump critic and professor of law at Harvard. “Far from breathing life into his damning report, the tired Robert Mueller sucked the life out of it. The effort to save democracy and the rule of law from this lawless president has been set back, not advanced.”
12.) “Impeachment’s over,” said ABC News senior national correspondent Terry Moran.
13.) “This has been a disaster for the Democrats and a disaster for the reputation of Robert Mueller,” said Chris Wallace of Fox News. “He has seemed very uncertain with his brief … He doesn’t seem to know things that are in the report. He’s been attacked a number of times and you would think that almost anybody else would have defended his own integrity and the integrity of the investigation and over and over. [Yet] Mueller just sits silent and allows the attacks from the Republicans to sweep over him and says nothing.”
14.) “We are only 30 mins into this thing,” tweeted Amy Walter, national editor for the Cook Political Report earlier in the morning, “but I don’t think that this is going the way Democrats were hoping it would.”
15.) “I actually felt sorry for [Mueller],” said a New York-based veteran and a father of four.
16.) CNN’s David Axelrod noted, “This is very, very painful.”
“Bob Mueller’s testimony today was not assertive, let alone aggressive. Bob Mueller’s grasp and presentation of the underlying facts … was not very detailed. It didn’t build in the way some had hoped.”
17.) “The more this hearing goes on, the more it becomes painfully clear that not only did Bob Mueller not write his own report — he was barely involved or in control of it at all. You know who was? His team of Democrats. This was a resistance-driven partisan witch hunt all along,” said Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.).
18.) Conservative commentator, radio show host and writer Wayne Dupree noted bluntly of the appearance, “Mueller looked like a doddering old fool, slumped over his desk. ‘What was the question?’ ‘What did you say?’ ‘You can read it.’ ‘Can you repeat that?’”
19.) MSNBC’s Ari Melber had this to say: “Bob Mueller’s testimony today was not assertive, let alone aggressive. Bob Mueller’s grasp and presentation of the underlying facts … was not very detailed. It didn’t build in the way some had hoped.”
20.) Mueller was “not on top of his game,” said NPR.
21.) It was an optics “disaster” for the Democrats, commented NBC’s Chuck Todd.
22.) Legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, speaking on CNN, said, “It certainly seems like Donald Trump is winning.”
23.) “Second most pleased person today should be the guy in charge of Republicans winning back the House next year,” said White House counselor Kellyanne Conway.
24.) “This was classic Mueller. He’s a guy who is a figurehead. He lets everybody else do the work for him and then he takes credit for it,” said Gregg Jarrett, a legal and political analyst for Fox News, speaking on “The Laura Ingraham Podcast” on Wednesday.
25.) “I think Robert Mueller did a horrible job … But in all fairness to Robert Mueller, he had nothing to work with,” said President Donald Trump to reporters. www.lifezette.com/2019/07/21-most-incredible-reactions-to-muellers-meh-appearance-before-congress/?fbclid=IwAR3c8qpRV05EXSeA_ljld_0MxDju8parVxBcbhjxGBT68tlKzcJl0Gotn5A. . . . For me, if our two progressive octogenarian Supreme Court Judges are still functional, I'm voting Trump. If Trump gets to replace one, I'd prefer Biden (if he wins).
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Post by fenwaydouble on Jul 25, 2019 12:14:58 GMT -5
The snowflakes sure seem to be taking losing everyplace hard... Please stop with the snowflake thing. You and the guy in the video are the only ones who are getting upset about that dumb article. The right is just as whiny as the left.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 25, 2019 12:23:03 GMT -5
This puts me in mind of an observation I came across recently: Democrats are fundamentally oriented around economic/material issues like wages and health care, while Republicans are fundamentally oriented around cultural identity. But culture is dominated by liberal ideology (because corporations and marketers are most interested in young and urban populations, which skew left), while the political system is dominated by conservative ideology (because of various biases that over-represent older, whiter, and rural people, who skew right). But since culture is more salient for Republicans and politics is more salient for Democrats, everyone feels like they're losing all the time. Well put. For me, although I appear to be a right leaning person, I'm actually a moderate but a moderate who is anti left extreme as well as anti right extreme. If the far left takes a hit, I'm happy. If the far right takes a hit, I'm happy. In this case, I was particularly referring to the string of loses the far left has endured. Sequentially, Hillary, Charlottesville (ANTIFA sparked the violence and the courts ruled they didn't have the right to tear down the monuments), Kavanaugh and the mob reaction based on testimony of three witnesses who have either been discredited or are facing charges, immigration when it turned out that the cage photos were from the Obama administration, the big blue wave which was a huge fizzle, the soaring economy, Mueller, after which the prime time ratings dropped across all the networks, significantly (LOL, a recent statement, CNN would have to double their ratings to have as many viewers as there are prostitutes in the USA), the squad which is backfiring on all cylinders and now the Meuller hearings which turned out to be a disaster for the impeach Trump extremists. Here's an Omar article to ponder, how are the red states going to view this ?: nypost.com/2019/07/23/state-lawmaker-conservative-group-call-for-ethics-probe-of-ilhan-omar/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR1jNJxTu4WAH-1R5Y69weQmkSR_jXvgUgH_WW07BZspzHgFai6kVO1aGyoHere's Liz Chaney piling it on (and what will be the Republican platform): www.facebook.com/watch/?v=209186233351134Here are some statements after the Mueller hearing: 1.) “Robert Mueller’s testimony was a stammering, stuttering mess,” said The New York Post.
2.) “Old Man Mueller: Fool on the Hill,” wrote Michelle Malkin, in part, on Twitter.
3.) “Clearly Mueller was not in the House. This is not going to move the needle ..[It] was a huge loss for the anti-Trump media … He appeared weak. He could not recall or answer basic questions … I don’t think Mueller wrote this report,” said Doreen Borelli of Fox News.
4.) “Robert Mueller dodged the Judiciary committee’s questions about 100 times today,” said Politico.
5.) “Jesus, forgive me for ever being a Republican,” tweeted MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough.
The Hill ✔ @thehill NEW: Trump takes post-Mueller victory lap hill.cm/XZiB2ZO
6.) The hearing was “political theater,” said RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
7.) “Hug a Democrat today! Their witch hunt is over, they look petty AF and they will lose again in 2020 for that reason and a million more. Sucks to suck!” tweeted Tomi Lahren.
8.) “I think it was a complete stalemate … I can just say he was not hitting on six cylinders today,” said Chris Swecker, former FBI assistant director, in an interview on Fox News. “That was not a stellar performance on his part … He was not sharp today … He punted to Congress or he punted to the American people [on this matter].”
HuffPost ✔ @huffpost If the Justice Department couldn't charge Trump, it shouldn't have investigated his conduct in the first place, GOP lawmakers argued. #MuellerHearings huffp.st/TgzK7HI
At Mueller Hearings, Republicans Assert Trump Is Above The Law If the Justice Department couldn't charge Trump, it shouldn't have investigated his conduct in the first place, GOP lawmakers argued.
huffpost.com
9.) “Dems give Trump another gift with embarrassing #MuellerHearing,” tweeted Laura Ingraham, host of “The Ingraham Angle” on Fox News.
10.) “He’s there, to the best of his memory, trying to recall everything that’s in [the report] … I respect him for [his service to the country] … When all is said and done, this was not the best use of our time,” said Becket Adams, Washington Examiner.
11.) “Much as I hate to say it, this morning’s hearing was a disaster,” said well-known attorney Laurence Tribe, a Trump critic and professor of law at Harvard. “Far from breathing life into his damning report, the tired Robert Mueller sucked the life out of it. The effort to save democracy and the rule of law from this lawless president has been set back, not advanced.”
12.) “Impeachment’s over,” said ABC News senior national correspondent Terry Moran.
13.) “This has been a disaster for the Democrats and a disaster for the reputation of Robert Mueller,” said Chris Wallace of Fox News. “He has seemed very uncertain with his brief … He doesn’t seem to know things that are in the report. He’s been attacked a number of times and you would think that almost anybody else would have defended his own integrity and the integrity of the investigation and over and over. [Yet] Mueller just sits silent and allows the attacks from the Republicans to sweep over him and says nothing.”
14.) “We are only 30 mins into this thing,” tweeted Amy Walter, national editor for the Cook Political Report earlier in the morning, “but I don’t think that this is going the way Democrats were hoping it would.”
15.) “I actually felt sorry for [Mueller],” said a New York-based veteran and a father of four.
16.) CNN’s David Axelrod noted, “This is very, very painful.”
“Bob Mueller’s testimony today was not assertive, let alone aggressive. Bob Mueller’s grasp and presentation of the underlying facts … was not very detailed. It didn’t build in the way some had hoped.”
17.) “The more this hearing goes on, the more it becomes painfully clear that not only did Bob Mueller not write his own report — he was barely involved or in control of it at all. You know who was? His team of Democrats. This was a resistance-driven partisan witch hunt all along,” said Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.).
18.) Conservative commentator, radio show host and writer Wayne Dupree noted bluntly of the appearance, “Mueller looked like a doddering old fool, slumped over his desk. ‘What was the question?’ ‘What did you say?’ ‘You can read it.’ ‘Can you repeat that?’”
19.) MSNBC’s Ari Melber had this to say: “Bob Mueller’s testimony today was not assertive, let alone aggressive. Bob Mueller’s grasp and presentation of the underlying facts … was not very detailed. It didn’t build in the way some had hoped.”
20.) Mueller was “not on top of his game,” said NPR.
21.) It was an optics “disaster” for the Democrats, commented NBC’s Chuck Todd.
22.) Legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, speaking on CNN, said, “It certainly seems like Donald Trump is winning.”
23.) “Second most pleased person today should be the guy in charge of Republicans winning back the House next year,” said White House counselor Kellyanne Conway.
24.) “This was classic Mueller. He’s a guy who is a figurehead. He lets everybody else do the work for him and then he takes credit for it,” said Gregg Jarrett, a legal and political analyst for Fox News, speaking on “The Laura Ingraham Podcast” on Wednesday.
25.) “I think Robert Mueller did a horrible job … But in all fairness to Robert Mueller, he had nothing to work with,” said President Donald Trump to reporters. www.lifezette.com/2019/07/21-most-incredible-reactions-to-muellers-meh-appearance-before-congress/?fbclid=IwAR3c8qpRV05EXSeA_ljld_0MxDju8parVxBcbhjxGBT68tlKzcJl0Gotn5A. . . . For me, if our two progressive octogenarian Supreme Court Judges are still functional, I'm voting Trump. If Trump gets to replace one, I'd prefer Biden (if he wins).
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 26, 2019 8:55:46 GMT -5
Do we really need to pollute this board with politics? don't we disagree enough about the Red Sox games? Mods, please close this down. I'm perfectly happy to talk politics. What I'm not about to do is waste my time arguing with a terminally brain-poisoned proto-fascist old man who claims to have brought this up as a legitimate baseball story and yet somehow made his way to "actually, everything bad that happened at a white supremacist rally is Antifa's fault" in like two moves. Do not engage.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 26, 2019 9:51:34 GMT -5
We moved the topic and called it "and politics".
lol, can't handle facts ?
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Post by coachmac on Jul 26, 2019 9:56:26 GMT -5
Who the reporter or Rivera? Robert Silverman needs to go back to whatever rock he crawled out from. Mariano Rivera is one of the classiest human beings in the country. When you proclaim Rivera as one of the classiest people do you totally disregard the claims by the mother of 2 of his children that he doesn't support them financially or spend much time with them? I know from the Ortiz thread that you judge adulterers harshly.
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Post by manfred on Jul 26, 2019 10:01:25 GMT -5
Teehee. I love this sort of discussion. It helps me get a real sense of people.
I give Rivera a pass on his political views because I’m guessing he didn’t go to school past about 10th grade and he is an absolute Jesus freak. Those things don’t tend to combine to make some sort of modern John Locke. Must burn Schilling up, though, so that is a plus.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 26, 2019 11:30:20 GMT -5
Robert Silverman needs to go back to whatever rock he crawled out from. Mariano Rivera is one of the classiest human beings in the country. When you proclaim Rivera as one of the classiest people do you totally disregard the claims by the mother of 2 of his children that he doesn't support them financially or spend much time with them? I know from the Ortiz thread that you judge adulterers harshly. First the article had nothing to do with Rivera's personal life, it was an attack on his political beliefs. I have no idea about his personal life I only know that he has the admiration of his peers and has always conducted himself with class and dignity. If the article painted a factual picture of say Chapman's personality, I would feel differently but that's not what this slimeball did. For the next post, just a comment. Referring to someone from the majority of countries in the world as only having a 10th grade education paints a picture that is only technically accurate. The majority of the world's population graduates high school after grade 10 not grade 12. The learning cycle is compressed and Junior High School is eliminated. As an example, my 4th grader has geometry for math, my 6th grader is doing review (the school year just started) but will have calculus when the new stuff begins. Last year, she had Algebra. Both kids read, write and fluently speak 3 languages. My kids do well in school but what I just said applies to all their classmates as well. Schilling is a piece of work.
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Post by coachmac on Jul 26, 2019 11:37:49 GMT -5
So you didnt take the womebs claims into consideration I made no comment about education levels so I don't accept it as relevant to the question I asked.
Congratulations on teaching your children.
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Post by manfred on Jul 26, 2019 11:44:08 GMT -5
When you proclaim Rivera as one of the classiest people do you totally disregard the claims by the mother of 2 of his children that he doesn't support them financially or spend much time with them? I know from the Ortiz thread that you judge adulterers harshly. First the article had nothing to do with Rivera's personal life, it was an attack on his political beliefs. I have no idea about his personal life I only know that he has the admiration of his peers and has always conducted himself with class and dignity. If the article painted a factual picture of say Chapman's personality, I would feel differently but that's not what this slimeball did. For the next post, just a comment. Referring to someone from the majority of countries in the world as only having a 10th grade education paints a picture that is only technically accurate. The majority of the world's population graduates high school after grade 10 not grade 12. The learning cycle is compressed and Junior High School is eliminated. As an example, my 4th grader has geometry for math, my 6th grader is doing review (the school year just started) but will have calculus when the new stuff begins. Last year, she had Algebra. Both kids read, write and fluently speak 3 languages. My kids do well in school but what I just said applies to all their classmates as well. [ I suppose I was trying to use polite shorthand rather than saying that he is not likely a profound thinker and hence is susceptible to the empty platitudes of a demagogue and unbothered by what others would see as deep contradictions (eg: WWJD if his friend were an unrepentant philanderer, sexual assailant, bigot, and financial criminal?).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 26, 2019 12:18:28 GMT -5
So you didnt take the womebs claims into consideration I made no comment about education levels so I don't accept it as relevant to the question I asked. Congratulations on teaching your children. Sorry for my bad format, I said next post in regards to the education. No, that wasn't the subject of the original article. I only responded to the subject of the original article. I don't spent a whole lot of time investigation players personal lives I only see it when they make headlines which is generally related to violence in one form or another like the football player that broke his kids arm and got a two game suspension.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 26, 2019 12:47:30 GMT -5
First the article had nothing to do with Rivera's personal life, it was an attack on his political beliefs. I have no idea about his personal life I only know that he has the admiration of his peers and has always conducted himself with class and dignity. If the article painted a factual picture of say Chapman's personality, I would feel differently but that's not what this slimeball did. For the next post, just a comment. Referring to someone from the majority of countries in the world as only having a 10th grade education paints a picture that is only technically accurate. The majority of the world's population graduates high school after grade 10 not grade 12. The learning cycle is compressed and Junior High School is eliminated. As an example, my 4th grader has geometry for math, my 6th grader is doing review (the school year just started) but will have calculus when the new stuff begins. Last year, she had Algebra. Both kids read, write and fluently speak 3 languages. My kids do well in school but what I just said applies to all their classmates as well. [ I suppose I was trying to use polite shorthand rather than saying that he is not likely a profound thinker and hence is susceptible to the empty platitudes of a demagogue and unbothered by what others would see as deep contradictions (eg: WWJD if his friend were an unrepentant philanderer, sexual assailant, bigot, and financial criminal?). You can probably make that statement about most athletes. Look at the topic though. Silverman was throwing shade because he was Christian and supported Israel and worst yet, he supports Trump. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, do we all need to have Silverman's political beliefs ? People who call Trump supporters bigots are likely bigger bigots than Trump. How many moderates (the majority in the country) is that kind of disingenuous crap slinging going to win over ? It's like it always cracks me up to see the women's libbers referring to Melanie Trump as a "birther" like as if motherhood is a sin. How many women is that going to win over to their cause ? The far left extremists are no better than the far right extremists and every bit as dangerous.
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Post by manfred on Jul 26, 2019 13:05:53 GMT -5
[ I suppose I was trying to use polite shorthand rather than saying that he is not likely a profound thinker and hence is susceptible to the empty platitudes of a demagogue and unbothered by what others would see as deep contradictions (eg: WWJD if his friend were an unrepentant philanderer, sexual assailant, bigot, and financial criminal?). You can probably make that statement about most athletes. Look at the topic though. Silverman was throwing shade because he was Christian and supported Israel and worst yet, he supports Trump. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, do we all need to have Silverman's political beliefs ? People who call Trump supporters bigots are likely bigger bigots than Trump. How many moderates (the majority in the country) is that kind of disingenuous crap slinging going to win over ? It's like it always cracks me up to see the women's libbers referring to Melanie Trump as a "birther" like as if motherhood is a sin. How many women is that going to win over to their cause ? The far left extremists are no better than the far right extremists and every bit as dangerous. Briefly for now: 1) Trump is a proven bigot going back to the legal issues he had in the ‘70s for racial discrimination. 2) “birther” has nothing to with motherhood. It is that she believed the insane conspiracy theory that Obama was not American. That is a familiar attack these days, no? When did a white guy last have his birthplace questioned?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 26, 2019 13:34:00 GMT -5
OK, my bad on the birther. I have no idea then what the mobs were screaming about at the Kavanaugh hearings.
Whether or not Trump is a bigot does not make Trump supporters bigots. If you prefer to just use facts, the employment rates and wage gap between minorities and whites is far smaller under Trump than under Obama.
The white guy thing swings both ways. The EU's ICC and the UN's Human Rights Watch which are pretty clearly left wing organizations have never investigated or prosecuted a white guy. ANTIFA is currently the most violent group in America.
Should I think that Obama supporters encourage nuclear proliferation because of Iran and North Korea ? If you supported Obama then is it fair to call you a nuclear proliferation proponent ?
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Post by manfred on Jul 26, 2019 13:34:12 GMT -5
Anyway, I’m with you: no one should be blackballed in his prime gor political beliefs. Oh, wait, that wasn’t oppressed HOFr Mo! I was thinking of Colin Kaepernick.
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