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Post by bluechip on Jun 17, 2013 17:02:08 GMT -5
I think Myers should have been called up the second his later call-up would have guaranteed the Rays the extra year, which, correct me if I'm wrong, would have been earlier this season. The Rays probably delayed until Myers was beyond the Super Two date. For them, delaying arbitration is nearly as important as delaying free agency. Most GM's estimated the Super Two safe date would be between June 10th and June 20th. Clearly the Rays by calling him up on June 18th were avoiding the Super Two status.
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Post by jmei on Jun 17, 2013 18:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by bluechip on Jun 18, 2013 9:31:19 GMT -5
Another guy, Zack Wheeler, who was delayed to avoid super two status debuts today.
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Post by justen on Jun 18, 2013 11:07:07 GMT -5
Max Scherzer first 10-0 starter since Pedro. He is just absolutely filthy.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 18, 2013 11:49:51 GMT -5
Another guy, Zack Wheeler, who was delayed to avoid super two status debuts today. Yup, pretty excited to see his debut. I'll probably be watching the second Sox game at 7, but at the very least I'm going to check out his condensed game on MLB.tv. He could very well blossom into a solid number 2 guy behind Harvey, giving the Mets a formidable, young, and cost-controlled rotation they've desperately needed for a while now. If he looks good, Giants fans probably have some strong feelings after that foolish Beltran trade. Of course, there's no guarantee Wheeler will blossom into a true #2 guy, and while his AAA numbers have been solid, there's still some improvement to be made. Power arms can get by with spotty fastball command, but if he's not a true fireballer, I wouldn't be surprised to see him encounter some home run issues when he leaves fastballs in the upper-middle half of the zone. Last I heard, he was developing a changeup, but I have no idea where he's at with that (I'll be looking for it tonight). Still, his 94-96ish fastball and solid curve should get him by as at least a decent starter as he acclimates, even if the command isn't quite where it could be.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 18, 2013 14:18:37 GMT -5
Not being flippant at all here but Mets should assess whether they think they will be a legit contender within next 5 years and if not they should trade Harvey for the proverbial package of a boatload of prospects/young controllable MLB players that would MAKE them contenders within 2-3 years. Contenders who would jump at this and have the requisite talent include Texas, Sox, StLouis, and....
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 18, 2013 15:07:36 GMT -5
The Tigers went from 119 losses to the World Series in three years, and they didn't have nearly the talent in their organization that the Mets do now. Every team plans to be a contender within five. If a GM was incapable of building a winning team around Harvey in that time, then he wouldn't be capable of doing it around some theoretical boatload of prospects either.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 18, 2013 15:19:38 GMT -5
Youks to have back surgery for a herniated disk. Out for 10-12 weeks (essentially the season).
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Post by Guidas on Jun 18, 2013 15:39:56 GMT -5
The Tigers went from 119 losses to the World Series in three years, and they didn't have nearly the talent in their organization that the Mets do now. Every team plans to be a contender within five. If a GM was incapable of building a winning team around Harvey in that time, then he wouldn't be capable of doing it around some theoretical boatload of prospects either. I completely agree with this in theory, but Mets ownership seems to be in complete disarray unlike, say, Mike Illich who is willing to spend as much as it takes. Also they have J.P. Riccardi in their front office who is basically a human self-desctruct button. Of course, if the Wilpons could find where that $50B that Maddoff "couldn't locate" for the Feds is buried...
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Post by elguapo on Jun 18, 2013 15:41:08 GMT -5
Youks to have back surgery for a herniated disk. Out for 10-12 weeks (essentially the season). This will spare me the sight of him in a Yankees uni. There's no way he should have been playing 3B regularly at this point in his career - 1B/DH from here out.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 18, 2013 17:11:27 GMT -5
Youks to have back surgery for a herniated disk. Out for 10-12 weeks (essentially the season). Hey, so maybe we shouldn't all have been so quick to recant our offseason predictions about how bad the Yankees are this year. They currently have three above average hitters, and one of them is Travis Hafner, who went .179/.286/.299 in May and is .128/.227/.359 so far in June. And remember Vernon Wells's hot start? Skip this next part if you happen to be pregnant because this is the kind of slash line that could cause birth defects: .120/.129/.133 in the last 28 days. Yes, that's a .133 slugging percentage, and no, I did not make those numbers up.
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Post by nothingball on Jun 18, 2013 18:56:49 GMT -5
Good Lord that is bad. I thought watching JBJ produce a .154/.254/.269 in limited appearances this season was painful, I can't imagine how bad you have to be to produce half of that slash line with more ABs.
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Post by bentossaurus on Jun 18, 2013 19:22:45 GMT -5
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 18, 2013 19:30:15 GMT -5
Not being flippant at all here but Mets should assess whether they think they will be a legit contender within next 5 years and if not they should trade Harvey for the proverbial package of a boatload of prospects/young controllable MLB players that would MAKE them contenders within 2-3 years. Contenders who would jump at this and have the requisite talent include Texas, Sox, StLouis, and.... Eh, they need Harvey. And Harvey, Wheeler, Gee, and Niese is a pretty solid rotation. If they could add a decent #3 guy, they'd finally have good starting pitching all the way through. They really need to settle on a first baseman between Duda and Davis, and move the other. Murphy and Wright are certainly good players, and you can't forget about Travis d'Arnaud. They have a legit closer as well. Really, they need a top-of-the-line outfielder, but they have plenty of talent to emerge in a year or so as a pretty competitive club. Watched some of the Mets-Braves game before the Sox started. Wheeler looks pretty good despite the 4 walks. The curve hasn't been located well at all, but his slider has been nice. Finally: Ryan Sweeney HR alert. #2.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Jun 19, 2013 8:51:55 GMT -5
NHeck, Im crying laughing right now, video was priceless. FBI Agents was the best part. Great find.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 19, 2013 9:00:36 GMT -5
Salamander. LOL!
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Post by charliezink16 on Jun 19, 2013 10:48:29 GMT -5
Oh god, the powers of Joseph Gorden Levitt LOL. Priceless
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 19, 2013 11:32:17 GMT -5
That was priceless. Salamander and JGL-Ichiro had me dying.
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Post by ozebaseball on Jun 19, 2013 11:45:00 GMT -5
Max Scherzer first 10-0 starter since Pedro. He is just absolutely filthy. Not really, but cool.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Jun 19, 2013 14:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 20, 2013 16:22:36 GMT -5
Should the Jays win this evening, that will place every team in the AL East at or over .500. No other division has their bottom-dweller closer than 10 games below the waterline. So things are very much as predicted at the beginning of the year, with one glaring exception of course. The Sox have made off with the Jays' first place projection, at least up to now. The spot at the bottom that was supposed to be reserved for Boston? That's instead been filled by the obliging Canadians. How much longer will that swap last? Who knows. But it feels good right now what with the season almost half over. I still think the Jays will make a serious push, though they've got some tough teams to climb over to make it to the playoffs. Right now they're riding an 8-game winning streak, and there's lots of time for them to move up. Anyway, here's to what's been a nice comeback so far.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 21, 2013 9:45:07 GMT -5
Anyone between the ages of about 27 and 40 will enjoy this immensely.
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Post by bjb406 on Jun 21, 2013 12:10:59 GMT -5
Manaea signed for more than clint frazier did at 5th overall. I know a lot of poeple thought they did a great job to get Manaea in the supplemental round, but I think they probably would have been better off grabbing the best available with the first 2 picks
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Post by rangoon82 on Jun 21, 2013 21:55:18 GMT -5
Chris Davis has 27 effin dingers already? Good gracious. Barry Bonds watch out.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 21, 2013 22:25:02 GMT -5
Chris Davis has 27 effin dingers already? Good gracious. Barry Bonds watch out. At the end of the season, he might be the only thing standing between Miguel Cabrera and a second straight triple crown.
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