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Post by asm18 on Apr 11, 2024 21:39:12 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus.
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Post by kingstephanos on Apr 11, 2024 21:40:57 GMT -5
I blame the eclipse “Since the eclipse: Celtics lose badly twice, the Bruins lose at home and this 3-game sweep of the Sox by the Orioles “ We didn’t make enough sacrifices Maybe some of us made too many 🤷🏾♂️
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 11, 2024 21:41:50 GMT -5
Honestly I marvel at how horrible they can be but I cant really say this bothers me much. Nothing I've seen surprises me thus far.
When I'm really invested in the Sox I ride the roller coaster of emotions because it means that much to me.
But I'm at a point the wins dont light me up and the losses dont bother me a heckuva lot. I expect them to be bad/mediocre. I don't expect them to be truly competitive before 2026 and expecting a bunch of rookies to instantly gel is asking a lot so I dont expect much until probably 2027.
So as diehard as I am, I feel a bit apathetic, probably like a lot of other fans. The Sox chose to spend some money but not a lot. They chose to be competitive but not really. They chose to rebuild, but not all the way. So we'll probably wind up with 5 mediocre seasons out of 6 with another year or two more on the way unless they start to do things differently. I do like the young core of position players they have in the minors but they will need pitching and of course defense.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 11, 2024 21:43:52 GMT -5
Cora: "We consider Hammy a good shortstop... We'll keep running him out there"
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Post by kingstephanos on Apr 11, 2024 21:44:14 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus. You had me until "scapegoat Cora". He epitomizes the last couple years, for me. Talks about defense - keeps kiké in at SS. Keeps Duran in at CF while he's having "difficulties" etc.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Apr 11, 2024 21:44:30 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus. I like to watch videos of Bobby Dalbec go yard in Worcester.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 11, 2024 21:48:10 GMT -5
Cora is already sounding defeated and defensive
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Apr 11, 2024 21:48:14 GMT -5
Well this is the kind of series that sucks the enthusiasm out of a fan...
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Post by markm7 on Apr 11, 2024 21:48:42 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus. “Scapegoat Cora” seems like an interesting choice of words he’s bottom of the pack in bullpen management and can’t get the defense corrected on the team this year 4 in a row. Not to mention if I’m Breslow I’ve got to question his commitment he’s been consistently complaining since 2021 deadline and i don’t want that negativity around Mayer Anthony or Teel when they’re ready soon
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Post by wildsox on Apr 11, 2024 21:49:12 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus. You had me until "scapegoat Cora". He epitomizes the last couple years, for me. Talks about defense - keeps kiké in at SS. Keeps Duran in at CF while he's having "difficulties" etc. Exactly, saying We have to be better after every game gets a little tiresome
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Post by asm18 on Apr 11, 2024 21:54:36 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus. You had me until "scapegoat Cora". He epitomizes the last couple years, for me. Talks about defense - keeps kiké in at SS. Keeps Duran in at CF while he's having "difficulties" etc. I know Cora-bashing is popular here, but what manager in Major League Baseball is going to be successful with a barely functioning middle-infield that his front office can’t or won’t upgrade? How much of the poor defensive play is on Cora behind the scenes is something I’m sure Breslow is evaluating - but guys who don’t project to play well at a position, and then play poorly at that position… that’s not on the manager. Some will point to Rafaela as the answer at SS right now, to which I would agree. This is purely speculative, but are even sure if that’s Cora’s call to make? Breslow just gave Ceddanne 50 million dollars to presumably be a Gold Glove CF the next 8 years - and his focus (rightly or wrongly) isn’t exactly on 2024…
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Post by sxfan on Apr 11, 2024 21:55:50 GMT -5
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Post by Montana Lemonious-Craig on Apr 11, 2024 21:56:24 GMT -5
This is gonna be a boring summer for Sox fans. I think I’m ready for them to finally completely bottom out and start from zero. The last few years have been so mediocre it hurts
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 11, 2024 21:56:46 GMT -5
Has a manager ever quit mid-season? Cause damn — Cora might be the first one…
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Post by markm7 on Apr 11, 2024 21:59:38 GMT -5
This is gonna be a boring summer for Sox fans. I think I’m ready for them to finally completely bottom out and start from zero. The last few years have been so mediocre it hurts Won’t be boring odds are one or two of Anthony Mayer Teel will be up with Casas Rafaela Devers and Bello before July. No reason to start from 0
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Post by asm18 on Apr 11, 2024 22:00:49 GMT -5
How do I emotionally detach myself from this team that I know is going to drive me insane. It is clear as day they will plod their way through to the deadline (with fun little winning streaks in between to provide false hope), then trade key guys away or simply not do anything, finish with like 78 wins, scapegoat Cora in the fall, and then promise to make bold moves and not do anything again next off-season - and yet I will wake up tomorrow morning convinced they can win 2 of 3 against the Angels like a baseball Sisyphus. “Scapegoat Cora” seems like an interesting choice of words he’s bottom of the pack in bullpen management and can’t get the defense corrected on the team this year 4 in a row. Not to mention if I’m Breslow I’ve got to question his commitment he’s been consistently complaining since 2021 deadline and i don’t want that negativity around Mayer Anthony or Teel when they’re ready soon See this is the type of scapegoating I’m talking about. If professional baseball players make routine plays we win the series. But they don’t, and so “Cora is a bad manager.” I’m not trying to suggest Cora is infallible - and if Breslow thought he was irreplaceable he probably has a contract extension right now - but being upset that he’s not making a Capitol Grille meal out of McDonalds ingredients is insane to me.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 11, 2024 22:02:52 GMT -5
I like Cora in terms of having a likeable personality - he seems like he is a "players" manager. When he has the talent and team leadership (such as Ortiz), they've been successful. But I question whether he can motivate a young, middle of the road team with no team leader. He's had some pretty awful seasons, and I think he's been trading on 2018 for quite some time. These somewhat talent-deficient teams are probably not his best situation to manage in. But - he isn't a magician, and he's not had a whole lot to work with (except for the weird 2019, when the talented team just wasn't well prepared)
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Post by markm7 on Apr 11, 2024 22:05:50 GMT -5
“Scapegoat Cora” seems like an interesting choice of words he’s bottom of the pack in bullpen management and can’t get the defense corrected on the team this year 4 in a row. Not to mention if I’m Breslow I’ve got to question his commitment he’s been consistently complaining since 2021 deadline and i don’t want that negativity around Mayer Anthony or Teel when they’re ready soon See this is the type of scapegoating I’m talking about. If professional baseball players make routine plays we win the series. But they don’t, and so “Cora is a bad manager.” I’m not trying to suggest Cora is infallible - and if Breslow thought he was irreplaceable he probably has a contract extension right now - but being upset that he’s not making a Capitol Grille meal out of McDonalds ingredients is insane to me. None of the players have got any better at some point that’s on the manager. I just don’t think he can manage a young team which they’re going to be extremely young very soon and Cora just hasn’t proven he can develop talent properly I don’t see how he sees July 4th
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 11, 2024 22:05:52 GMT -5
Sub “guy” for “team” and this is what I’ll likely be yelling at my TV for the rest of the season:
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Post by iamnotluistiant on Apr 11, 2024 22:08:20 GMT -5
Has a baseball manager ever been traded for draft picks or international bonus money? Cora seems to be a 'players manager' but he is also seems really frustrated being handcuffed with a really mediocre team (who was that pitcher he left out to dry who gave up 10 or 11 runs last year). I have read how a lot of baseball people think he is really talented. If by mid-season (or earlier) he clearly doesn't want to be here (or is on the verge of getting fired) maybe he could be part of the rebuild.
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Post by semsox on Apr 11, 2024 22:10:00 GMT -5
Cora is a championship caliber manager, and it feels like he will always manage a team to that standard regardless of the underlying talent. Giving your guys off days, using funky lineups, getting cute with the bullpen management, etc. It's one thing if you have a stacked roster and the team responds to what you're doing. It's another when half the roster is filled with second-tier players who really need to be put in their optimum position in order to be passable.
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Post by wildsox on Apr 11, 2024 22:11:32 GMT -5
Cora is a championship caliber manager, and it feels like he will always manage a team to that standard regardless of the underlying talent. Giving your guys off days, using funky lineups, getting cute with the bullpen management, etc. It's one thing if you have a stacked roster and the team responds to what you're doing. It's another when half the roster is filled with second-tier players who really need to be put in their optimum position in order to be passable. Some teams can be managed and other need to be coached
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 11, 2024 22:12:26 GMT -5
Cora is a championship caliber manager, and it feels like he will always manage a team to that standard regardless of the underlying talent. Giving your guys off days, using funky lineups, getting cute with the bullpen management, etc. It's one thing if you have a stacked roster and the team responds to what you're doing. It's another when half the roster is filled with second-tier players who really need to be put in their optimum position in order to be passable. If the team sucks this bad for another month, I’d hope they’d let Cora go for decency’s sake.
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Post by manfred on Apr 11, 2024 22:21:00 GMT -5
Can we fire Bloom again? I’m looking back at his drafts, and it just adds to my frustration of what a waste this has been. Jud Fabian? Mikey Romero? Cutter Coffey? Even Yorke. Sure, they may turn it around, but … not looking great.
I just can’t believe how much the Orioles have jumped past the Sox even when their ownership was barely spending.
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Post by markm7 on Apr 11, 2024 22:36:35 GMT -5
Can we fire Bloom again? I’m looking back at his drafts, and it just adds to my frustration of what a waste this has been. Jud Fabian? Mikey Romero? Cutter Coffey? Even Yorke. Sure, they may turn it around, but … not looking great. I just can’t believe how much the Orioles have jumped past the Sox even when their ownership was barely spending. Can blame Bloom for alot drafts aren’t one of them, GM usually doesn’t run the draft or do a whole lot outside of round 1.
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